The Top 10 Biggest Plot Holes In Dragonball Z

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Majin Vegeta Exploding The Top 10 Biggest Plot Holes In Dragonball Z

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I’m on my big Dragonball Z kick and it got me thinking a bit about the series as a whole and what it did right. Then again, it got me thinking about what it did wrong. I started to think of some things that didn’t quite make sense, even after I watched the series a few times in the English translation, then checked the Japanese original subtitles to make sure. You can do mostly the same thing by buying a DVD set. I suggest Season One. Here are my findings for the Top 10 Biggest Plot Holes in Dragonball Z.

10. Vegeta Hated By Proxy:

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Can you really hate a guy that can rock a pink shirt like that?

I might be stretching a bit here, but this was always something that kind of bugged me. Vegeta was the “Big Bad” of the first major plot arc of the series, though afterward he was generally a good guy, with a few minor exceptions. Still, a bunch of the Z Fighters can’t tolerate his presence due to their first encounter. The total number of good guys he killed was actually, uh, zero. Yamcha was killed by a self-destructing Saibaman (planted by Nappa), Chiaoztu killed himself attacking Nappa, Tien died fighting Nappa, Piccolo died protecting Gohan from Nappa, and uh, well Vegeta didn’t blow up any cities or army folk or anything. He did, however, kill Nappa (though it wasn’t very nice of him). But still he’s looked down upon until he proves again and again that he’s a good guy, even saving Gohan and Krillin’s lives a few times.

9. The Afterlife Is More a Suggestion:

King Kai Shocked The Top 10 Biggest Plot Holes In Dragonball Z

This is one of the glorious watchers of the universe. Yup, we're doomed.

When characters die, they go to the Spirit Realm, a place on another plane of existence where there is a check-in station, a Heaven, a Hell, and planets above those where the Kais live to govern everything. Problem is, these Kais don’t really do much. They are supposed to be the “gods” of the world, yet they are frequently completely shocked when they discover what Goku and his friends are capable of. Beyond this, there’s the problem of villains getting killed and going to the afterlife, yet somehow being controlled by stupid ogres. When Goku dies (the first time), he asks King Yemma, the guy in charge of the check-in station, if his brother Raditz came by. King Yemma mentions that Raditz came by and was sent down below. Goku is amazed by this since Raditz was the strongest fighter they’ve dealt with at that point and wants King Yemma to train him instead of King Kai, to which Kami says that King Kai is stronger. Later, after Goku reaches King Kai for training we discover that Vegeta and Nappa are stronger than King Kai and that Goku must become stronger than him in order to stand a chance. From that point on the villains get stronger and stronger, but they all get sent down below without much problem. One question though: How? If King Yemma isn’t stronger than King Kai, and Vegeta is stronger than King Kai, and Frieza kills Vegeta, how can Frieza be controlled by King Yemma when he is eventually killed? Just think about that a bit.

8. Frieza ‘s Family:

King Cold and Frieza in Hell The Top 10 Biggest Plot Holes In Dragonball Z

A touching moment between father and son...in the underworld.

Speaking of Frieza, we learn that he is the ruler of the universe and commands a massive empire. King Kai is terrified when he learns that the Z Fighters have encountered Frieza since Frieza is so dang strong. It is agreed that Frieza is absolutely the strongest fighter in the universe. When Goku defeats Frieza in battle everything seems all well and good, but then Frieza comes back as a cyborg…with his father. Somehow Frieza also has a father named King Cold, a guy that would have to be above Frieza in leadership, though perhaps not strength. So where’d this father all of a sudden come from? Oh, and Frieza also has a brother named Cooler, though technically he’s only seen in the non-cannon movies. Still, strongest guy in the universe, but oops, forgot to mention he has a father that’s the same race. There’s a whole race of these beings, so where are they and why aren’t they all as well known and all powerful as Frieza? So many things to consider.

7. The Dragonballs’ Rules or Lack Thereof:

Shenron Summoned The Top 10 Biggest Plot Holes In Dragonball Z

"Pff, whateva, I do what I want!"

For a show that’s called “Dragonball Z” they don’t seem to care about the actual Dragonballs all too much. It’s very rare when the Dragon actually needs to be summoned and then it’s usually only to restore everyone that was just killed in a decisive battle. The rules go that the Earth Dragon can only grant one wish and he won’t grant the same wish more than once. The Namekian Dragon will grant the same wish all you want, has three wishes, but won’t wish back more than one person at a time. Characters ask from time to time why they don’t just have the Dragon wish the villain away, with the explanation being that the Dragon is only as powerful as the person that created it, namely Kami, Guru, Dende, and Mori (all Namekians with unimpressive powers). Yet the Dragon can wish back entire populations, restore planets, grant immortality, and all sorts of other cool powers. So why can’t the makers of the Dragons do those things? Not sure, but even worse is when those rules I mentioned stop coming in to play any time they really need those rules not to apply.

For instance, when Goku is wished back to life the first time he loses his halo while still on King Kai’s planet, followed by having to race back to the check-in station and then to Earth. Later in the series, all you have to do is wish someone back to life and they instantly appear wherever the plot sees fit, such as in front of the Dragonballs or wherever the character actually died. It just seemed a bit too much that the item of the show’s title doesn’t even have strict rules or anything as long as the plot needs those rules to be forgotten for a moment or two.

6. Goku’s Two Escapes From Namek:

Goku Returns From Space The Top 10 Biggest Plot Holes In Dragonball Z

Wait a minute, I swear I saw you explode...

Now we’re really getting serious with our plot holes. After Goku defeats Frieza he is left on the planet Namek as it is exploding. We get an episode where he struggles to get back to his ship, fails, tries to get Frieza’s ship to work, fails to do that, watches it fall into lava, then floats around in the sky as the planet explodes. We learn he didn’t die somehow, but it isn’t until Trunks shows up that Goku explains what happened. He says he saw one of the Saiyan-style pod ships falling near Frieza’s spaceship, jumped into it, and took off right as Frieza’s ship hits the lava and the planet explodes. That’s all good and well except WE SAW THAT SEQUENCE NOT HAPPEN. The episode with Goku on the exploding planet clearly shows Goku watching Frieza’s ship fall into lava from way up in the air and then deal with the planet exploding. You can’t show us two separate versions of the same event and tell us, “Oh yeah, he totally got off somehow. We were just lying about the first one to trick you.” That doesn’t cut it, but things get worse.

5. Buu Doesn’t Play By His Own Rules:

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"Whateva! I do what I want!"

Majin Buu is established early on as having the power to turn people into various candies and sweets and then eat them. This kills them. It just does. They become food and are then eaten, being chewed to bits. When Majin Buu inadvertently creates Evil Buu and is then defeated in combat since he is turned to chocolate, Evil Buu eats him and then transforms into Super Buu. Okay, a little odd, but whatever. Later, Super Buu turns most of the non-essential Z Fighters into chocolate and eats them, which definitely kills them since we see them in the Other World after that. Jump ahead a bit and Super Buu is absorbing fighters and gaining their powers. Jump ahead some more and Goku and Vegeta are wandering around Buu’s innards, rescuing Gohan, Goten, Trunks and Piccolo. They find them in what they call “People Pods.” They also find Majin Buu, the original fat Majin Buu, in one of these pods. Huh? So what, people are absorbed only when it makes sense? Why wasn’t Krillin absorbed then when he was eaten? Why weren’t millions of the world’s population not found absorbed in the same fashion? Even worse, when Majin Buu is removed from Super Buu he reverts to Kid Buu instead of the gray Evil Buu. That’s quite enough of that, so let’s move on.

4. Planet Vegeta Destroyed 4 Years Ago…23 Years Ago:

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"You ever see Superman? It was like that, bro."

This is the first plot hole to appear in the series but it’s kind of a big one for me. Raditz shows up and informs Goku that they’re brothers and Saiyan warriors, of which there are four left in the universe. Why? Well, their planet blew up, that’s why. Raditz says it was a meteor that hit the planet (something that other characters “confirm” with a little flashback scene of it happening), though we learn in the very next plot arc that Frieza blew up the planet. So where’s the plot hole (other than the inconsistencies of the explosion)? Raditz says the planet blew up four years ago. I checked this a few times between the English and the Japanese subtitles and yes, he says four years (according to our English editions). Problem here is that Planet Vegeta, the Saiyan’s homeworld, was destroyed right as Goku was leaving it. Goku is at this point in the series roughly 23, so, do the math. Not huge since it’s just a small error, but still, kind of huge when you consider the fact that it hasn’t been fixed even after the “definitive remastered and redubbed super versions” I bought.

3. Restore The Earth; Forget The Rest:

Vegeta Nappa Eating aliens The Top 10 Biggest Plot Holes In Dragonball Z

"Hey Vegeta, you shouldn't eat other races." "WHATEVA! I DO WHAT I WANT!"

At the end of the series the Earth has been blown up. Kid Buu succeeds in wasting it pretty handily, making him the most effective villain (which makes sense as he’s the final villain of the series). Goku and Vegeta make it off the planet and craft plans to destroy Kid Buu with an elaborate scheme involving a Spirit Bomb made from all the energy from people on Earth. That means they need the planet back, so they wish the Namekian Dragon to restore the planet, then all the people killed since the beginning of Buu’s appearance as Majin Buu. The plot goes off perfectly (although delayed), and Kid Buu is eliminated for good. But wait a second, what was Kid Buu doing while Goku and Vegeta fled the planet? He reformed in space and transported himself to a new planet in search of the two. Not finding them there he blew up that planet and skipped around from planet to planet blowing up each one until Goku and Vegeta summoned him to the super secret mystical world of the Kais. Dozens of planets are destroyed, but they only bother to wish the Earth and its inhabitants back to life. Sure, I get why, what with the plot to make a really powerful Spirit Bomb, but are those other planets so insignificant? And what about planets that Vegeta blew up on his way to Earth? And for that matter, what about planets Frieza blew up? Why not wish Planet Vegeta back? Apparently no one else but us Earthlings matter. Good news for us I suppose.

2. Power Levels Over 9000:

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Ironic that he goes on and on about Saiyans keeping their pride, yet this image has been mocked more times than well...9000.

I can’t help myself but bring in the classic joke that the series is still famous for. In the very first saga when Vegeta and the Saiyans in general are introduced we find out that Vegeta is strong enough to blow up planets when firing directly at them. Cool. He fights with Goku and when he clocks his power level he finds out it’s over 9000, which is apparently a big deal. The real fight begins and when the two are powering up Bulma is half way around the world checking their powers with her own scouter which explodes when one of them reaches something like 26,000. The planet shakes from this and all sorts of natural disasters occur (but not enough to destroy the world, for some reaon). The next time a power level is read it’s Goku’s on Namek, topping out over 180,000. Now we’re getting big time. The last known power reading that we can measure by the same standard is Frieza’s as he claims he has a power level of one million, a fact that pretty much everyone confirms. Goku transforms into a Super Saiyan and outclasses Frieza, so his power level is well over that million mark. And powers just keep getting bigger and bigger from there with Super Saiyan 2’s and 3’s and “Powers like I’ve never felt before.” So if a power level of 26,000 can nearly shake the world apart, why doesn’t a power level past one million instantly crumble the planet just from existing? These guys have power levels in the millions, probably tens of millions, and they’re slamming into each other with energy ricocheting all over the place. How did the Earth not explode just from this? Because it wouldn’t be convenient to the plot of course. So if this is bad, what’s the worst offense?

1. Namek’s “Five” Minutes:

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"Learn to tell time? WHATEVA! I DO WHAT-" *cut off by explosion*

It just couldn’t be anything else. During the Frieza Saga, the villain in question decides he can’t beat Goku as a Super Saiyan and decides to blow up the planet by shooting an energy blast straight to the core. The planet doesn’t blow up right away though. Frieza gives it “five minutes” before it goes. They make a big deal about the “five minutes” thing. The rest of the fight between Goku and Frieza must happen in “five minutes.” This is what happens in “five minutes”: Goku and Frieza fight, Goku allows Frieza to achieve 100% maximum power, Gohan takes Piccolo back to Goku’s ship, Gohan finds Bulma and takes her back to the ship as well, Frieza throws Goku into lava, Gohan returns and fights Frieza, Goku returns and fights Frieza again, King Kai has Kami wish all the Namekians back to life, Dende awakens and flies over to the Namekian Dragon and wishes everyone but Goku and Frieza off the planet, Goku and Frieza finish fighting, Frieza decides to keep fighting Goku anyway, Frieza cuts himself in half on accident (big ol’ oops), Goku saves Frieza’s life, Frieza has an episode-long flashback about their battle, Frieza attempts to kill Goku AGAIN, Goku shoots one heck of an energy beam back and defeats Frieza, Goku runs around and looks for a way off the planet, Goku causes Number Six on this list, then the planet blows up. THEN the planet blows up. All in “five minutes.” That’s something like ten episodes where the planet is “five minutes” from destruction. You can count up a single episode worth of talking between Goku and Frieza and it equals over five minutes, so how does everything happen in “five minutes?

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Still a heck of a fight, though.

You want my explanation? The one that will prove I’m WAY too much of a geek? Okay, here goes: Nobody said the five minutes was in Earth time. For that matter, no one said it was in Namekian time either. Frieza comes from some planet that we never get to see, so for all we know “five minutes” translates into “two hours Earth Time.” See what I just did? I thought way too deep about that. Still, despite my stretching for an answer, there really isn’t one that the series explains. None of the characters seem to question this “five minute” logic at all, not even to mock Frieza. And that’s why it takes the number one spot on my list.

Alright, that was a heck of a list, wasn’t it? But I can’t be the only DBZ fan out there that has way too much time on their hands, right? This is your chance to either explain some of these plot holes, or point out some that I missed. There is bound to be something. Let me hear it with a comment. That’s what the comment buttons are for down there.

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  1. That’s what I assumed with the Five Minutes as well. It’s very plausible to assume that Frieza’s concept of “Five Minutes” is completely different than what we’d assume.

    I’d never heard that theory about Buu eating chocolate though. Still, it doesn’t make sense as Krillin, Yamcha, android 18, and everyone else on Kami’s Lookout were turned into chocolate yet didn’t get absorbed, just killed. I suppose it could all come down to Buu’s digestive system picking and choosing who to absorb and who to kill, but it still seems fishy to me.

  2. Buu: I remember someone bringing this up on another website, they said something like, when your absorbed by chocolate it is different from being abosorbed as a person.

    Five Minutes: Most people suggest that there is a time difference between earthlings and Freiza’s planet. On Freiza’s planet five minutes could mean 20-30 minutes on our planet.

  3. That’s why I think the Goku’s Two Escapes from Namek is the most inconsistent plot device in the series. He was clearly suppose to have perished originally, but then the author blatantly contradicts himself by stating a TOTALLY DIFFERENT VERSION OF THE SAME EVENT FOR THE SAKE OF CONTINUING THE SERIES.

  4. A good point there. I didn’t realize that’s what happened. I know they tried the same sort of deal with GT but Akira Toriyama refused to keep making the series just to promote a video game’s release.

  5. I say number 6 (two versions of Goku on exploding Namek) on that list could probably be switched place with number 1 (Namek will explode in ‘5 minutes’. It’s because number 6 actually has much more plot significance than number 1. Goku was originally intended to die from the explosion of Namek because the DB series was suppose to end there. However because of great popularity, Akira had to continue with the series, so he had to come up with the biggest PLOT DEVICE in the whole series (which is to lie about Goku dying on Namek’s explosion…two completely contradicting versions of the EXACT same event lol)! #1 was annoying since it obviously did seem way longer than just 5 minutes for Namek to explode, but it was just weird. It didn’t have that much of influence on the plot as let’s say 6.

  6. You know, that may just explain a whole lot. Much of it seems to fall into the “We needed it to be this way so it was” category, especially with Goten and Trunks being just as strong as the other Saiyans with very little in the way of real training. The concept of skills and abilities getting past to children based at the time of conception almost holds true, at least for Goten, but Vegeta and Bulma hooked up before he had mastered the Super Saiyan technique, and we see explicitly how Trunks ascends to Super Saiyan status in the future timeline. Somehow the time of peace was better suited to push him to the next level, even though it didn’t make sense.

    I put all the trouble with Mr. Satan in with the problem of no one realizing that these super powers are really super powered. They have video evidence that these beings are capable of leveling cities with a flick of their wrist, yet they still can’t figure out why the military can’t take them down each time they try. I suppose people will believe whatever they want to believe to get by, so if it seems more convenient and less troubling to believe that Mr. Satan is right with everything he says, meh, ignorance is bliss. Naturally, though, there’d be all sorts of conspiracy theories in the real world, such as documentaries on the Cell Games (“The Sell Games: How Your Government Sold Away Your Rights”).

  7. I thinkkk.. that their excuse or logic was that the children were conceived when both Saiyans were at a certain power level. Maybe the saiyan genes transfer their current state of power when the child is concieved. If that is true, it would make sense that both Trunks and Gotens did not have tails and that they were so powerful out of the womb. Also it would explain Gohan’s immense power potential.

    If a saiyan child’s power potential is directly equivalent to the Father on conception than those plot holes are covered. It would also make sense considering the Saiyans are a warrior race and for each father to pass their power to their child a apart of Saiyan genetics then. I kind of just thought of this, but maybe that was an unwritten part of Saiyan genentics that they may have planned to include later on in the series. Considering the lack of Saiyans knowledge like that would have been lost.

  8. You make some good points, but both Trunks and Vegeta had near death experiences, and in the Cell saga. According to the massive power jumps from the Frieza saga and the rest of the series, when Vegeta was healed after being completely demolished by Cell when he went perfect form his power should have gone through the roof like it did when Krillin blasted a hole through his chest and yet he was still no match. Also Goten and Trunks go Super Saiyan almost instantly in their timeline, granted they tried to cover it with Vegeta immense surprise. I might have understood it if Trunks did it after training in the gravity chamber, but they show them both doing it before their training with Gohan and Vegeta. They just magically became Super Saiyans with zero to NO training. Gotens didn’t even know how to fly and the only real fighting they did was with each other. How did the reach power levels far surpassing a million without Goku or Gohans training. ChiChi with a powerlevel of around a hundred trained Goten and he turned super saiyan during his training with her. Considering Vegeta’s and Gohan’s surprise it meant that they HAD NOT been training with the only other fighters that could transform at that time.

    I read your other review.. I want to also add that the public turns a blind eye to Mr Satan’s lack of power. If he was so great, why didn’t they notice his inability to stop Vegeta’s blast wave. Also, he NEVER is able to match their speed or anything they do. Wouldn’t it be obvious that Mr. Satan isn’t on the same level when he would always purposely hide. It was like they made the entire World completely gullible. Even when he first fought cell and cell knocked him far away. It was recorded and Mr. Satan was sent flying and his excuse was he lost his footing? It drove me absolutely nuts that no one saw the TRUTH which was slammed in their face.

  9. You’re right, definitely some plot holes there. I’d place a few of those in my category of “Power Levels Over 9000″ due to the amount of energy needed to destroy a planet, even by accident. If Vegeta detonated himself ON TOP OF EARTH, it’d be toast.

  10. - a human can make androids more powerfull than freiza
    -spirit bomb killing buu but not the destroying the planet
    – vegeta blowing himself up to kill buu but not destroy the planet.
    – the time it takes to travel from place to place
    – Videl having enough energy to fly right off the bat

  11. Oh, and Cell’s special 3x power came as a result of both “his cells retaining the memory of his perfect form,” and “his Saiyan cells making him infinitely stronger after being restored.” So basically, “Cell cheated.”

  12. Hahaha, I agree with you nearly 100% there! I can argue the Cell/Androids thing though just a little. Cell didn’t show up the same way in the main plotline as he did in Trunks’ alternate future. He took a time machine to the main plotline from some alternate alternate future thing (rather confusing, I know). But Cell doesn’t appear directly afterward in Trunks’ future. The Cell from the main timeline is destroyed when he’s still being grown in his tube. Why Dr. Gero didn’t think to just implant the androids in Cell to begin with is beyond me.

    I thought there was a bit of a problem with the Super Saiyans just popping up and then going past their already established “mythical” levels of power. Sure, Super Saiyan 2 was cool, and 3 was ridiculous in a good way, but they really did make them just that “thing that needs to occur” near the end. There stopped being so much strategy to the fights and just turned into “Who could ascend the quickest.” It is massively convenient that new levels kept showing up right when they needed to, even though Super Saiyans haven’t been seen in thousands of years (assuming that whole bit of dialogue was translated correctly).

    Oh, but Guru, the elder Namek, did technically die as a result of Frieza. There was the worry that he’d died from natural causes, which he did, but they were sped up by the stress placed upon him by Frieza murdering his entire race, so he got like five more minutes of life. You know, just so they could use the dragon to wrap up the plot. Still, it does make you wonder what sort of technicalities that could actually get away with with the Dragon Balls that they never attempt.

  13. No to mention, how are half blooded and quarter blooded saiyans able to become super saiyans.. Vegeta says more than one that only pure blooded can turn super saiyan… and SS1 seems so insignificant later on in the series. If it was so legendary on the only other who achieved it cold only stay in beast form why is it so useless vs Cell and Buu.

    The andriods were supposed to be evil as f and they destroyed and ruled trunks timeline, but you find out in GT and such that they were actually the better versions.. Where was CELL in Trunks timeline, why did it take 20 years for cell to come in his when it only took a couple monthes for him to pop up in real time line. Why didn’t Dr. G just have Cell absorb the androids right off the bat. and How the f did cell go super cell without android 18 and be 3x more powerful than he was before.

  14. I love DBZ but I agree with all these plot holes. Also, the power levels I have an issue with… there always seems to be more levels of super saiyan… then why have they all achieved unheard of levels in a matter of years when in millennial’s time no one ever reached these heights. I find it very convenient that the only 2 pure blooded saiyans (save brolly which is a whole different story of plot holes) are able to surpass all of their races entire existence of saiyans. As far as Radditz saying its been 4 years since the planet vegeta exlpoded.. a year is measured by the time it takes for a planet to rotate around the sun, radditz only just visiting earth runs on a completely different clock than earthlings do.

    How come SSJ2 and 3 saiyans were NEVER heard of until the Saiyans. Vegeta does mention there must be more levels unheard of but to reach these levels in such short time seem to be extremely unlikely. Granted a saiyans power increases exponentially by the foes they face and lose to, that may shed a little light on the subject matter.

    Also what about the elder namekian (his name escapes me) he died of natural causes, he was not killed by frieza, and yet he was able to be wished back, but goku could not in the alternate time line where he dies from a heart disease. Also, why didn’t they just wish for goku’s disease to be cured when things like immortality are able to be granted. Why didn’t they just wish for higher powerlevels or the ability to absorb power. How come every enemy is JUST with in reachable training range… what if buu came before freiza. How come power levels of 1 billion and stuff were never achieved in all of the universes time. If theres different universes (dictated by north south east and west (you got me because space is not just 4 directions), why is the saiyan race the only one with the greatest potential… and MOST OF ALL.. if saiyans got stronger by losing, how come Vegeta NEVER surpassed goku when he got his ass kicked the MOST.

  15. Well, this is just what I found to be plot holes as I saw them. I agree that it’s a television masterpiece, and honestly, I’m not doing any damage with any plot holes I do or do not find. I’m actually really curious what the “Official Five” really are, though keep in mind, I won’t count them if they come from GT as, like I’ve mentioned, that’s a plot hole all in itself for existing.

    But yes, debate here is good. Please enlighten me as to what I’m missing. I’m now tasking you with properly challenging my plot hole theories one by one. I expect sources cited as well. Oh, and don’t forget the follow-up article as well, so that means you have 20 theories to debunk. Plus, spelling and grammar count for these arguments.

    P.S. How do you explain Frieza’s “Five Minutes?” I’m very curious.

  16. You’re an idiot. The majority of these aren’t even plot holes. Don’t try to find flaw’s in this television masterpiece. From the three main deagonn ball series’ there’s only
    like less than 5 theories on what there is to be a plot hole. You didn’t even mention one. I don’t know why this pissed me off so much. It just did.

  17. Ya that makes sense but I love how as you said their power lvls seem to mean nothing. Its as if the universe and planets get stronger depending on their power. Its like Frieza is all powerful blowing up planets while by just looking at them but then Goku (who reaches the same lvl then a high lvl) requires a spirit bomb to blow up a planet (like when he fights kid buu). The spirit bomb was hard to control because of its sheer size but countless times in the show you see that size really doesn’t matter in terms of energy power why could he just shrink the spirit bomb by condensing the energy or maybe instead of creating a huge ball of energy stream the energy through him in a beam form.

    But plot holes etc. aside DBZ is epic and always will be epic and GT will suck (except while the show itself sucked I did like when Goku surpassed SSJ3 by going into the monkey form then reaching a lvl higher.)

  18. I know what you’re saying there for sure. Gohan was always cool to watch, but they got a lot confused with him. They do mention that he was the strongest when fighting Cell, but he slacked off for 7 years and was actually weaker as a teenager than as an eleven-year-old. I always wondered whether he was capable of transforming into a Super Saiyan after gaining his “Mystic Powers.” I always sort of thought he should have hit a new power level beyond his “Kicking Buu’s Face In” level. Still one of my favorite one-sided fights when he whomps on Buu without relent. Too bad it was worthless effort.

    I do understand how there can be ever-stronger enemies though, at least through DBZ (GT is where it falls apart). Vegeta is super powerful, but not the strongest in the universe. Earth had run out of new super powers, so Vegeta and Nappa show up to be the new Big Bads for a while. Then the Z Fighters face Frieza, the “supposed” strongest fighter in the universe. That makes enough sense to me. The Androids and Cell, however, weren’t born but rather created to outrank the Z fighters in strength, so that still makes sense to me. And finally, Buu WAS the most powerful fighter in the universe until he was sealed in his ball, but once he’s set free he’s once again on top. Sure it was all very convenient that these events happened in a natural progression (Deus Ex Machina), but then again these guys are blowing things up with their minds so a few instances of “All right, you can get away with it if you have to” are okay with me.

  19. Good list /me tries to think of one of the countless plot holes he has discussed with his buddies before.

    Hmm I can’t think of any good ones but what about Gohan? When Gohan is training to fight buu he is considered “and confirmed by others” to be the strongest with his super secret ultra power that exceeds ssj but he doesn’t really do anything … I mean a huge chunk of episodes (and I’ll be damned if they remove those episodes from DB Kai since I love DBZ and Kai hasn’t topped it for me yet) are worthless. Also When Gohan fights cell he seems to be considerably stronger than he does once he reaches ultimate form (lulz at ultimate form when is black hair ever going to beat gold those damn fools) sure all the enemies are “stronger” but still he seems slower etc.

    Also why do the enemies keep getting stronger? Is it from the massive amount of manly power energy juice that Goku leaks from his body 24/7 that slowly goes around the world and powers everyone up to be just | | <- this much stronger than him or do they have a whole different set of dragon balls (wait a sec why are dragon balls only on Earth and Namek?) making them more powerful overnight.

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